I should say I have one and my brother in law has the other. I run MSAR proprietary mags through it only. 54 Posts #6 • Oct 29, 2012. The MBUS sights melted to the rail. Verified Member FFL. I took my new MSAR STG 556 E4 out this weekend and I must say I really like this rifle, it was very accurate and reliable, the trigger is alot different than my AR but its something I will get used to. I posted about this review awhile back and someone here knew the name of the magazines, but I can't remember what post that was in. There was a problem filtering reviews right now. It only has 2 screw holes that line up on the STG 556 were it should take 3, but seems adequate for its purpose. … This was the only means of aiming the rifle, and for obvious reasons needed to be changed. STG-556 Gen. 1 STG-556 Gen. 2 STG-556 Gen. 3 STG-556 Gen. 4 XM17-E4 STG-E4 Gen. 5 . Next thing you know, MSAR filed for bankruptcy, only to come back with a website later on showing pictures of rifles sitting in racks. TPD is a small company that produces rifles one at a time and can take the time to meticulously manufacture, assemble, and stand by their product. The only M16 magazines that will fit and latch into the rifle are MSAR, Magpul and GI-type metal mags. I'm leaning more towards the stg mainly due to price. put a few 30 round mags through it, when all of the sudden, i had a failure to feed. Especially in a 3' wide hallway with windows to either side. Im considering getting a MSAR STG-556 from Rat Worx. By the 32nd mag it started to cook off. Along the way MSAR enjoyed many special editions. I had the same problem, my extractor broke, due to me using some defective Steyr USA made AUG mags that nosed the rounds down hitting below the feed ramp and jamming the bullet back into the casing. Any body have any real world hands on experience with one of these? Item: 877499743: Location: Anchorage, AK 99503: Shipping: Priority Mail … 54 Posts #6 • Oct 29, 2012. .I am looking to get a bullpup rifle soon and have been researching the Steyr AUG A3 and the MSAR stg-556. Like I mentioned over a month ago that you get what you pay for 99% of the time. I really love the rifle. I was running the gun with USGI aluminum. M-4matus. There is a gun show this weekend that I am going to look for an stg, or whatever else I may spy. 1,492 Posts . I had my MSAR out last week, and as usual, it was functioning flawlessly. It came with a BSA RD30 red dot sight that had a flush mounting system. If i'm going to drop $2000 on a new rifle, I want to be reassured that company will be around if and when it breaks so I can get replacement parts and service. I must have been lucky, I have two MSAR rifles and never had a problem. He fell in love with it. We 1,000 round torture test to my MSAR STG 556-E4. Save Share. They are pistol caliber version of the STG 556 (AUGish rifle above) that uses Glock magazines and can be purchased in any pistol caliber Glock carries and easily converted as well into other pistol calibers. Hopefully msar will get there stuff together. Earlier STG-556 versions have a Stoner-style Forward Assist (“FA”) and some compatibility problems. It costs just a little more to go first class . AUG clone? Discussion Starter • #1 • Jun 6, 2009. kel tec rfb has a nice consistent trigger, and its fully ambidexterous... 556x45 might have benefited from the forward ejecting chute. 12/1/2020 1:04 AM. … put a few 30 round mags through it, when all of the sudden, i had a failure to feed. .I am looking to get a bullpup rifle soon and have been researching the Steyr AUG A3 and the MSAR stg-556. The new gen4 rifles are supposed to be top notch incorporating all the revisions required to solve the problems in the previous three. Come join the discussion about collections, gear, DIY projects, hobbies, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! One of my last guns of 2007 was a MSAR STG-556 that I got from Wild West Guns. Verified Purchase. Save Share. They are pistol caliber version of the STG 556 (AUGish rifle above) that uses Glock magazines and can be purchased in any pistol caliber Glock carries and easily converted as well into other pistol calibers. The mag didn't want to come out at first, but I was eventually able to get it out. Never a problem with either. I've used it in some 3Gun and Tactical Carbine matches and it rocks in the CQB stages. STG-556 does take genuine AUG magazines (which are amazing) but after 20 rounds loaded it does have feeding issues. It's either a 3rd or 4th gen STG-556, or an E4 then. It was weird though, the cases were depriming well, the all of a sudden it was like the primer had gotten longer. Time Left 15 min rule. Please try again later. The bolt is closing over the top of the loaded mag. Figured I would call on Monday. So with all that said, I am extremely happy with my stg-556 but will most likely not be buying anymore MSAR rifles due to such unstable management. I’ve never had the pleasure of better magazines … Static/water transfer printed camo patterns often came up from time to time. MSAR’s fourth generation starts with serial number 6500. One of my last guns of 2007 was a MSAR STG-556 that I got from Wild West Guns. MSAR used to have a "downloads" section to their website, and it contained the owners manuals. Great Ergonomics - BullPup style .223/5.56 combat rifle. I can say that my STG-556 seems to be quite reliable, which I would expect given the decades-long track record of the Steyr AUG, whose design the SGT-556 is based upon. this time it failed to feed on the manual cycle. I would also look at a USR which is a post ban AUG A2 with Swarovski optics, updated bolt carrier and a. I have a STG556. Along the way MSAR enjoyed many special editions. Microtech Small Arms Research (MSAR) STG-E4 Rifle. Please support BullpupForum.com sponsors!! Ratworx luckily got me a new extractor and got on the waiting list for the hybrid bolt … It is chambered in 5.56 NATO 1/8 twist with a 16" barrel. I am looking at the generation 3 and 4, despite the company having issues I just wanna hear from people that own the rifle and have shot lots of steel case ammo through it and any issues, if any you've had. The MBUS sights melted to the rail. i have an e4. Like I mentioned over a month ago that you get what you pay for 99% of the time. 2500+ rounds with only one FTE - a round of xm193 - only the back half came out. I'm leaning more towards the stg mainly due to price. Below is a factory Gen.4 in Multicam with all metal parts … Limited editions often came in Pelican cases with Microtech knives, assorted magazines and in all matching colors. this time it failed to feed on the manual cycle. Looks nice . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It had a reviewed conducted by a guy that was using it over at Blackwater's training area. Had a few nato stamped cases that went through with no problem. I believe the company Ratworx is taking the customer service stuff, as well as dealing with parts, so you may want to look them up. My Msar Stg556 was a range toy not my go to gun by any means. snoopfighter. New Posting Member Offline Posts: 4: MSAR STG 556 First/Second Generation Ops Manual « on: February 25, 2012, 03:17:41 PM » I have an early model STG556. The mag didn't want to come out at first, but I was eventually able to get it out. I am open to other bullpups, but have always liked the AUG style. "Oh great! Limited editions often came in Pelican cases with Microtech knives, assorted magazines and in all matching colors. otherwise, it's been fine. Question was asked Msar VS real Aug and when the truth is explained people who bought the "Almost real deal" get panties in a bind . Used Condition. If i'm going to drop $2000 on a new rifle, I want to be reassured that company will be around if and when it breaks so I can get replacement parts and service. Ending Time. MSAR STG-556 Rifle, 5.56 NATO. 1,492 Posts . MSAR STG-556 Ejection Problems. i dropped the mag, cycled the action to clear the misfeed, popped the mag back in and tried again. So if anyone here remembers that magazine name and issue feel free to chime in. Take an in depth look at the MSAR STG-556. And to answer your question, Yes, MSAR is still around. The one I got was a flat top with a 1913 Picatinny rail. B. Restocking ammo in the field relatively easy due to common use of … So with all that said, I am extremely happy with my stg-556 but will most likely not be buying anymore MSAR rifles due to such unstable management. They sell a version thats NY ready with welded muzzle brake and 10 round mags. Where can I get a manual for it - electronic version preferred. "Most people don't believe something can happen until it already has. It only has 2 screw holes that line up on the STG 556 were it should take 3, but seems adequate for its purpose. Much better quality and not a cheaply made copy. Share. I have an early model STG556. Therefore I would avoid serial numbers lower than 6500. The bolt simply isnt catching the round and chambering it. Looks nice . It came with a BSA RD30 red dot sight that had a flush mounting system. Better to have a tank when you don't need it, than to need a tank when you don't have it. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. Ratworx MSAR Stg556 hybrid bolts. It costs just a little more to go first class . I am looking at the generation 3 and 4, despite the company having issues I just wanna hear from people that own the rifle and have shot lots of steel case ammo through it and any issues, if any you've had. Anyone own an MSAR STG-556? I don't get to shoot it as much as I wish but I do like it very much. The top round is pushed an 1/8th of the way forward but doesnt make it to the feed ramp. not sure why, it was good ammo, the case sheared about 50% from the back, had to pull out the front-half of the stuck case with a multi-tool. No Reserve! Mine has a very very tight takedown button on it that takes alot of force to activate. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. They changed the specs, put out lemons, used potentially unsafe proofing methods, screwed over their barrel vendor, then dropped the selling price of their guns from $1600 to $1000 overnight. That said, as always, I still prefer a I can't really think of anything I'd change. STG-556 Gen. 1 STG-556 Gen. 2 STG-556 Gen. 3 STG-556 Gen. 4 XM17-E4 STG-E4 Gen. 5 . Bullpup Rifles (Auto & Semi-Auto Centerfire), MSAR STG 556 First/Second Generation Ops Manual, Re: MSAR STG 556 First/Second Generation Ops Manual, SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal, Topic: MSAR STG 556 First/Second Generation Ops Manual (Read 9399 times). These sort of problems are fine with a $400-$500 dollar rifle, but really not acceptable with a $2,000 MSAR. These sort of problems are fine with a $400-$500 dollar rifle, but really not acceptable with a $2,000 MSAR. 0 Comment Report abuse. … MSAR as a company has consistantly been reputed as a star for customer service by really stepping out to help their owners. dubagel Replies: 11 Views: 679 12/14/2020 11:26 PM scatterbrains AUG in 7.62x39. They had some problems in the early going (not unexpected for a brand new product, not to mention brand new product line). Re: MSAR STG-556 What optics should I use? Item fit wells. A forum community dedicated to survivalists and enthusiasts. I recently acquired an MSAR STG-556. The AXR is a great rifle with no problems whatsoever and was thoroughly developed before being released. 0 Bids Bid History. First revealed at the 2007 SHOT Show, the STG-556 was manufactured by a subsidiary of Microtech Knives, Microtech Small Arms Research. FFL is required Ask Seller a Question Current Bid. The new gen4 rifles are supposed to be top notch incorporating all the revisions required to solve the problems in the previous three. Item has Ended. One of the wholesale firearm suppliers has the MSAR STG-556 on sale for $999.95 (cheap 30 & 42 round mags also). I love my STG-556 gen 3, and ratworxusa is now selling a new trigger pack that I should have in my hands in a week or so. EDIT: Thanks for all the replies. Going to be selling my AR to supplement some cash. My buddy and fellow ARFcommer (Greg3) sent his STG-556 in earlier this year and had it converted to an E4. It was in a Gun Magazine that review on the MSAR STG-556. The MSAR Modular Carbine System (MCS) will soon be available. The E4 is easy to identify because of the lower, "non-raised" optic rail, additional rail locations, different stock texture, and an AR-15-esque "nub" on the grip. They can and do upgrade the rifle … Seems to be 1.5-2 inches at 50 yards (3-4 MOA). « Last Edit: April 30, 2012, 11:00:03 PM by Sgt_P » Logged Better … MSAR has manufactured at least five thousand Gen4 STG-556 guns. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! MSAR STG-556 ODEE GREEN TAKES STEYR AUG MAGS. Where can I get a manual for it - electronic version preferred. Below is a factory Gen.4 in Multicam with all metal parts … Thanks. Don’t confuse the STG-556 with MSAR’s STG-E4. AUG clone? FNH FS2000: Option #1 [10" rail version, no factory optic] Pros: A. MSAR magazines do not fit in AUGs properly but they are gifts from the gods too. JavaScript is disabled. B. Restocking ammo in the field relatively easy due to common use of … My problem was trying to get some from custor service to answer thne stinking phone...Needed a left hand bolt never did get though. The one I got was a flat top with a 1913 Picatinny rail. C. In my mind, the AUG and MSAR STG-556 are one in the same choice, with the AUG being edged out by the MSAR. I'm finding conflicting reports on other sites. They can and do upgrade the rifle … Microtech Small Arms Research went out of business a while ago, but their website is back online and the new owners are bringing an updated version of the STG rifle to market. i dropped the mag, cycled the action to clear the misfeed, popped the mag back in and tried again. snoopfighter Replies: 3 Views: 529 12/13/2020 1:39 AM maleante Looking for an EXTENDED HANDGUARD for MDR- what do you think I should get? Don’t confuse the STG-556 with MSAR’s STG-E4. They had some problems in the early going (not unexpected for a brand new product, not to mention brand new product line). Has anyone had any range time with one of these or maybe a similar AUG, if so what did they think? Great Ergonomics - BullPup style .223/5.56 combat rifle. Rails for the STG are way overpriced elsewhere and this is very reasonably priced. Im not saying the MSAR is a bad rifle, I do say it's not fair to compare to an AUG. MSAR does their own machining in-house the only thing they don't do is the optic sight. There was a problem filtering reviews right now. I tried their website. Seems to be 1.5-2 inches at 50 yards (3-4 MOA). Rails for the STG are way overpriced elsewhere and this is very reasonably priced. I was lucky it did not have a major kaboom so I DO NOT recommend anyone try this. The MSAR STG-556 is a great carbine. MSAR themselves destroyed the market for their guns. This, American made, Steyr AUG clone is a wonderful firearm. Mine does everything my my Aug does and cost me a lot less money. Their website is also still up. No Bids Starting Bid. Little is known about the history of the weapon other than that. But it is no more... Much obliged. It is chambered in 5.56 NATO 1/8 twist with a 16" barrel. Topic: MSAR STG 556 First/Second Generation Ops Manual (Read 9362 times) Prepper. Because pictures are always cool Not sure about the MSAR STG-556 probably 5.56 as well. I'm finding conflicting reports on other sites. The MSAR STG-556 takes all that is good from the AUG and updates/improves it. These latched in fine but would not drop free. IIRC they are currently at version 6 for the STG 556. That's not stupidity or weakness, that's just human nature" - Jurgen Warmbrunn. The word is they will MSRP for around $900.00. Im not saying the MSAR is a bad rifle, I do say it's not fair to compare to an AUG. MSAR does their own machining in-house the only thing they don't do is the optic sight. Question was asked Msar VS real Aug and when the truth is explained people who bought the "Almost real deal" get panties in a bind . At least, they were earlier this year. $1,999.00. Know where I can get one? It looks like I'll be getting some other 556 rifle. As I read about this gun, I realize it was a badly executed business plan by MSAR, as bad-ass as the design may be. I can't seem to find these things for less than $1500. The word is they will MSRP for around $900.00. I've fallen in lust and need a reason to avoid the temptation. 0 Comment Report abuse. The 3rd generation lost the forward assist, the 4th lost the forward assist and takes both Steyr AUG and MSAR STG magazines, and the E4 exclusively takes AR-15 magazines. It will be … Static/water transfer printed camo patterns often came up from time to time. He's been such a great guy over the years, I gave it to him along with some mags. I had my MSAR out last week, and as usual, it was functioning flawlessly. Please try again later. M-4matus Replies: 2 Views: 157 12/12/2020 4:19 PM M-4matus Looking to get an AUG, … Problem #2 was the stock's magazine well. it does eject very violently, as the people at my 4 o'clock position at the range. Ended up with a paperweight temporarily. Helpful. The receiver was extremely hot. dubagel. This was months ago now. FNH FS2000: Option #1 [10" rail version, no factory optic] Pros: A. Any body have any real world hands on experience with one of these? Steyr-USA will be making them again soon but A3's are at least $2k now. The MSAR Modular Carbine System (MCS) will soon be available. The ACOG was very hot but no problems with it. Took him shooting last year and let him shoot one. Thanks. I've fallen in lust and need a reason to avoid the temptation. In case you aren’t familiar the MSAR STG-556 it is a clone of a Steyr AUG which is being built by Microtech Small Arms Research, yes the same Microtech that makes knives. fish11 A+(731) Seller's Other Items. 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